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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby Topher » Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:54 pm

With Boone, I think we beat Pitt easily. He was just so much better than Connette.
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby aiw » Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:29 pm

Crowder's TD catch wouldn't have been so pretty with Boone in there.
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby dukeberto » Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:44 pm

Mainly because it would have been a better thrown ball. Coach Mo always said it's the WR's job to make the QB look good -- you can't have great catches unless it's a poorly thrown ball.

Losing Boone was certainly less than ideal, but I think Connette has done more than an admirable job of replacing him. My only beef (besides the defense) is the way we are using Baby Tebow. We know he's not a pocket passer, so MOVE THE POCKET. He throws better on the run.

Also, this situation reminds me of an argument I heard once about Mike Vick when he was on the Falcons that made a lot of sense to me. Connette (like Vick) is a glorified running back. It has to be difficult for him to run for hard earned yards (usually with moderate success) and then be asked, on the immediate next play to throw a perfect long ball. Whenever BC carries the ball, I would like to see the next play be either a run or a very short, but high percentage throw, just so he can catch his breath from the previous play.
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby aiw » Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:53 pm

dukeberto wrote:Mainly because it would have been a better thrown ball. Coach Mo always said it's the WR's job to make the QB look good -- you can't have great catches unless it's a poorly thrown ball.



Uh, yeah.
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby Rollins » Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:32 am

The buzz about Boone's availability vs Navy has only gotten stronger.

How we use him is the biggest question going forward. I have confidence that Connette can move the ball at will vs Navy, but long term we need to get Boone reps, ideally 50+%.
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby dkst0426 » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:32 pm

At least 3 more wins seems doable.
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby aiw » Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:09 pm

Just read on deadspin that service academy sports are shut down until further notice. If the government shutdown costs us a chance at a bowl by costing us a 6th win, 10s of duke fans will rage
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby dukeberto » Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:30 pm

StopThePumpFakesShav wrote:Was just coming here to post this.

http://deadspin.com/government-shutdown ... 1434679157


I wonder if the game would be postponed for a later bye week (since we have two this year) or whether Navy forfeits?
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby dukeberto » Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:02 pm

From rowe's site apparently not a forfeit.

"No, that would not be considered a forfeit. It would just be a “no contest,” meaning the game isn’t considered for wins, stats or anything else. If the schools can agree upon a makeup date, that’s entirely up to them. If not, the game is obviously not played and it’s one less chance at a win to qualify for a bowl."

Army is playing Eastern Michigan the same weekend. Hopefully we can figure something out.
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby Topher » Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:28 pm

Based on nothing but my own guess: EMU seems like a perfect match for that weekend, if academy sports are still shut down. They will be traveling east anyway and need to fill a non-conf game. They also would like a team that they think they could actually beat, enter Duke.
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby DrKlahn » Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:01 pm

Why is that not a forfeit? If Duke decided to shut down it would be a forfeit. Frankly I've thought that this whole shutdown is just an elaborate ploy to avoid Connette.
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby dkst0426 » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:28 pm



Bodes well for next weekend, right?
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby physicsfactor » Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:44 pm

Lol. Those Duke lacrosse players can't stop being racists.
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby dukeberto » Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:58 am

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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby aiw » Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:29 pm

By the 2011-12 school year, according to self-disclosed data collected in the U.S. Department of Education’s annual Equity in Athletics report, Duke was spending $25.4 million in football—more than any current or incoming ACC school— against $20.5 million in revenue. It’s the only ACC football program that operates in the red, according to the same report, which does not include capital expenditures or money each institution allocates toward maintaining its facilities. (By contrast, Duke told the DOE that men’s basketball cleared nearly $9.8 million in profit during 2011-12.)


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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby Topher » Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:30 am

Why the **** are we spending more money than Clemson or Florida St on football? Funnel that money to players if you're just going to waste it, maybe we can land a DT of quality.
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby dukeberto » Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:48 am

Topher wrote:Why the **** are we spending more money than Clemson or Florida St on football? Funnel that money to players if you're just going to waste it, maybe we can land a DT of quality.


That money was to catch up to the mid-tier of the ACC. I think once we get there it will taper off or at least be on par with the rest of the conference.
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby DrKlahn » Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:49 am

Long distance recruiting must have something to do with that. At FSU and Clemson they can recruit on the way home from the grocery store.
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby DrKlahn » Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:51 am

Bills name Thad Lewis as next week's starter. Has a chance to immediately become the second most successful Cutcliffe product in the NFL this season.
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby StopThePumpFakesShav » Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:20 pm

Can someone help to explain this?

- Duke is the 20th worst team in college football in points allowed in the first half, yiedling 19.7 points per first half. In the last three weeks, they have yielded 21, 7 (but with a lot of yards) and 22.
- Duke is the 18th best team in college football in points allowed in the second half, yiedling just 8.7 points per second half. In the last three weeks they have yielded 10, 0 and 0.

Is it (a) awful advance scouting and practice preparation, (b) brilliant halftime adjustments, (c) incredibly good conditioning/stamina, (d) overconfident offenses thinking they can coast in the second half, (e) life-changing motivational guest speakers at halftime or (f) something else?
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby deeyoukayeee » Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:55 pm

StopThePumpFakesShav wrote:Can someone help to explain this?

- Duke is the 20th worst team in college football in points allowed in the first half, yiedling 19.7 points per first half. In the last three weeks, they have yielded 21, 7 (but with a lot of yards) and 22.
- Duke is the 18th best team in college football in points allowed in the second half, yiedling just 8.7 points per second half. In the last three weeks they have yielded 10, 0 and 0.

Is it (a) awful advance scouting and practice preparation, (b) brilliant halftime adjustments, (c) incredibly good conditioning/stamina, (d) overconfident offenses thinking they can coast in the second half, (e) life-changing motivational guest speakers at halftime or (f) something else?


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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby Rollins » Wed Oct 23, 2013 10:24 am

Really don't want to be going into the WF and UNC games with 5 wins. WF has a bye before Duke and UNC essentially has a bye with a FCS team.

The NC State game comes at the perfect time for Duke. Duke coming off a bye, and NC State coming off the inevitable let down of UNC game week.

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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby Rollins » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:19 pm

This week is the 6th (1 in '03, 4 in '08) of the 1,207 weeks in my life that Duke and the Panthers are both over .500. That's about .005%.
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby rhfarmer » Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:05 am

As important as 2012 was to Duke football, the win over VPI on the road is more important, IMO. The same analogy that we joke about with 5 star basketball players riding the pine at Duke versus being a star at Stanford can be reversed now with football. All the recruits on the fence about Duke know they can be a part of something remarkable now. By contrast, going to play hoops at Stanford won't get you in the tourney, but going to play football at Duke can get you to a bowl.
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby StopThePumpFakesShav » Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:10 am

dukeberto wrote:
StopThePumpFakesShav wrote:I think UNC will be properly motivated to play us in their house after last season. I think 50-50 for either them or VT is very optimistic, although I'd consider moving V Tech into the "possibly winnable" category if we were playing them at WW.


I would agree with you about VaTech if it was going to be a Thursday or night game at Lane Stadium. Marshall went in there this past weekend and only lost in 3OT. The sell-out streak ended earlier this season. I just don't see VaTech fans coming out in droves to watch a so-so VaTech team struggle against what most believe to be a **** Duke team. If there is inclement weather, all the better for Duke. Not saying we are going to win, but I do think they are beatable this year, home or away.

As to UNC, you are correct that they will be properly motivated, but you can just never tell in this series. Although we have been thoroughly dominated in the last 20 years, the talent level has always been in UNC's favorite, but we've always played them close. We finally made the breakthrough last year, hopefully we can build on that this year. They don't have Gio this year to run rampant. I do worry about the Renner-Ebron connection, given our ineptitude at covering TEs so far this season.


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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby StopThePumpFakesShav » Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:10 am

dukeberto wrote:
StopThePumpFakesShav wrote:I think UNC will be properly motivated to play us in their house after last season. I think 50-50 for either them or VT is very optimistic, although I'd consider moving V Tech into the "possibly winnable" category if we were playing them at WW.


I would agree with you about VaTech if it was going to be a Thursday or night game at Lane Stadium. Marshall went in there this past weekend and only lost in 3OT. The sell-out streak ended earlier this season. I just don't see VaTech fans coming out in droves to watch a so-so VaTech team struggle against what most believe to be a **** Duke team. If there is inclement weather, all the better for Duke. Not saying we are going to win, but I do think they are beatable this year, home or away.

As to UNC, you are correct that they will be properly motivated, but you can just never tell in this series. Although we have been thoroughly dominated in the last 20 years, the talent level has always been in UNC's favorite, but we've always played them close. We finally made the breakthrough last year, hopefully we can build on that this year. They don't have Gio this year to run rampant. I do worry about the Renner-Ebron connection, given our ineptitude at covering TEs so far this season.


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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby StopThePumpFakesShav » Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:10 am

dukeberto wrote:
StopThePumpFakesShav wrote:I think UNC will be properly motivated to play us in their house after last season. I think 50-50 for either them or VT is very optimistic, although I'd consider moving V Tech into the "possibly winnable" category if we were playing them at WW.


I would agree with you about VaTech if it was going to be a Thursday or night game at Lane Stadium. Marshall went in there this past weekend and only lost in 3OT. The sell-out streak ended earlier this season. I just don't see VaTech fans coming out in droves to watch a so-so VaTech team struggle against what most believe to be a **** Duke team. If there is inclement weather, all the better for Duke. Not saying we are going to win, but I do think they are beatable this year, home or away.

As to UNC, you are correct that they will be properly motivated, but you can just never tell in this series. Although we have been thoroughly dominated in the last 20 years, the talent level has always been in UNC's favorite, but we've always played them close. We finally made the breakthrough last year, hopefully we can build on that this year. They don't have Gio this year to run rampant. I do worry about the Renner-Ebron connection, given our ineptitude at covering TEs so far this season.


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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby dukeberto » Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:11 am

so nice, he had to say it thrice.
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby StopThePumpFakesShav » Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:17 am

I feel like the double and triple posts happen often to me, for whatever reason.
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby aiw » Sun Nov 03, 2013 1:13 pm

College Sports Madness - Duke vs. Auburn Music City

Please, no.
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby Rollins » Sun Nov 03, 2013 3:56 pm

aiw wrote:College Sports Madness - Duke vs. Auburn Music City

Please, no.


Shoot me.

Really a no win situation for either team. Auburn would smash Duke and then get negatively recruited against for playing Duke in a bowl game.
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby StopThePumpFakesShav » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:49 am

If Boone was healthy all year we would probably be 5-4.
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby aiw » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:12 pm

Oh, no

CBS/Palm: Duke vs. Notre Dame in Independence
College Football News/Scout: Duke vs. USC in Sun
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby Topher » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:28 pm

The problem with winning games is that we have to play good teams now in the bowl game. I think we beat USC though, hopefully not in El Paso.
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby SeanMayTriedToEatMe » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:38 pm

All these nonbelievers. Duke to Orange Bowl.
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Re: Duke Football 2013 Discussion Thread

Postby rhfarmer » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:56 pm

Aren't we playing with house money now? You gotta feel like being favored by so much against NCSU was a bit weird for this team. Going back to being expected to lose should be good for this squad.
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