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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby SeanMayTriedToEatMe » Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:05 pm



Duke's first ACC game, at Miami, is projected to be the de facto Coastal championship game.
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby Topher » Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:10 pm

lol at the obviously biased VT writer that voted for Motley and VT to win POY and the ACC championship.
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby SeanMayTriedToEatMe » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:22 pm

Good article by Keeley on Laken Tomlinson, the first Scott Bracey who really got all of this started IMO
http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/07/28/ ... tball.html

Mel Kiper Jr. has him rated as the fourth-best senior offensive guard. Other sites have him as high as the second-best guard available. "It would mean a lot to my school, and I know that’s a big deal," Tomlinson said of his draft potential. "I came here to play football. Whatever is the result of that, that’s awesome. I came here to represent my school, and I also came here to be a student and get a degree. That’s what I want to do, and I’m doing it right now." A [sic] evolutionary anthropology and psychology double major, Tomlinson also plans to take the MCAT this spring and set himself up for a future stint in medical school.


Picked Duke over Ohio State and maxed out his Duke life. I think Duke med school would accept him with a 20 MCAT score or higher plus a 3.0 GPA or higher, so he will have a top 5 med school option even if something nasty happens to his playing career.
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby Rollins » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:47 am

IC is saying that UNC is losing two Defensive Lineman on the 2 deep to academic suspension.
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby SeanMayTriedToEatMe » Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:44 pm



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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby CK86 » Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:35 pm

Rollins wrote:IC is saying that UNC is losing two Defensive Lineman on the 2 deep to academic suspension.


First academic causalities ever?
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby dukeberto » Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:46 pm

SeanMayTriedToEatMe wrote:

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It's understandable that we wouldn't get votes in a pre-season poll. It can be excused with "2013 was a fluke." Likewise, I don't expect to be ranked in the AP poll when it comes out in a few days, although I do hope we will be in the others receiving votes category. If we had beaten TAMU in the bowl game, I would feel differently, but we didn't.

Unfortunately, our schedule is set up in such a way that it will be very difficult for us to climb into the poll until at least the fifth week of the season after we play Miami. Accordingly, I don't see us being ranked until late in the season and only if we are 7- or 8-1.

Of course, UNC being ranked in the coaches poll should surprise no one. Why should the fact that they have lost 14 eligible players this off-season contribute to anything. Or the fact that they started out 1-5 last season. Or the fact that they have no defensive linemen and their OL was a question mark going into the pre-season. Carolina could easily (likely?) be 3-7 by the time our Thursday night game arrives.
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby dukeberto » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:17 pm

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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby StopThePumpFakesShav » Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:55 pm

dukeberto wrote:
SeanMayTriedToEatMe wrote:

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It's understandable that we wouldn't get votes in a pre-season poll. It can be excused with "2013 was a fluke." Likewise, I don't expect to be ranked in the AP poll when it comes out in a few days, although I do hope we will be in the others receiving votes category. If we had beaten TAMU in the bowl game, I would feel differently, but we didn't.

Unfortunately, our schedule is set up in such a way that it will be very difficult for us to climb into the poll until at least the fifth week of the season after we play Miami. Accordingly, I don't see us being ranked until late in the season and only if we are 7- or 8-1.

Of course, UNC being ranked in the coaches poll should surprise no one. Why should the fact that they have lost 14 eligible players this off-season contribute to anything. Or the fact that they started out 1-5 last season. Or the fact that they have no defensive linemen and their OL was a question mark going into the pre-season. Carolina could easily (likely?) be 3-7 by the time our Thursday night game arrives.


If we're in the 26 to 30 range and teams around us start to lose early season games, as long as we look reasonably good, we might be able to be ranked prior to the Miami game. Lot of contingencies there but I think our road to being ranked is less burdensome than you think even factoring in the "2013 Duke was a fluke" notion, which I'm sure exists in many minds.
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby SeanMayTriedToEatMe » Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:04 am

I'm seeing these projected lines for Duke in each game:

Elon -39
@Troy -11.5
Kansas -15
Tulane -21
@Miami +7.5
@Georgia Tech +7.5
Virginia -9.5
@Pittsburgh +3.5
@Syracuse +3
Virginia Tech +2.5
North Carolina +3
Wake Forest -11

Over/under on wins is 8.5. Based on the individual lines, the projected win total is 7.61. I think they get 8.
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby StopThePumpFakesShav » Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:00 pm

Yeah, I would think losses @Miami and @GT, and then losses in two of the four games in the stretch that begins with @Pitt and ends with UNC. That latter stretch is the key. Need to not go 0-2 against Pitt and Cuse.

We could be double digit favorites in half of our games and then underdogs in the other half of them if the UVA line creeps up a half a point and everything else stays as it is here. Kind of weird. I think of the four non-conference opponents, Troy has lost the most from last year, which is good since they're the road game and their guys gave us trouble last year.
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby StopThePumpFakesShav » Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:32 pm

Kelby Brown may be done for the season after suffering a knee injury today. Gonna adjust expectations down to 7 wins. This one is really big- sucks.

http://www.heraldsun.com/breakingnews/x ... nee-injury
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby physicsfactor » Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:35 pm

****.

That is devastating.
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby CK86 » Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:47 pm

Just saw that, god damnit. Hope he's ok but anytime they say knee injury, I immediately translate that to done for season.
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby aiw » Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:04 am

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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby Topher » Tue Aug 12, 2014 11:01 am

Out for the year.

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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby Thain » Tue Aug 12, 2014 11:11 am

DAMNIT!
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby SeanMayTriedToEatMe » Tue Aug 12, 2014 11:21 am

Medical redshirt and a 6th year? He came back from the same injury to his other knee, twice.
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby dukeberto » Tue Aug 12, 2014 11:39 am

I can only hope that he takes a page out of Anunike's book and petition for the sixth year, but you also have to wonder if he may be done mentally and physically. I don't think he will play in the NFL so he may be ready to hang em up.
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby Rollins » Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:02 pm

We don't have very good depth.

There were a lot of misses in the 2 recruiting classes after Boone and Laken's class.

I think the defenses ability to be consistently good and occasionally great dropped to consistently decent after KB's injury.
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby Pantone287 » Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:36 pm

dukeberto wrote:I can only hope that he takes a page out of Anunike's book and petition for the sixth year, but you also have to wonder if he may be done mentally and physically. I don't think he will play in the NFL so he may be ready to hang em up.


Do you think that more due to ability, or desire to be a pro football player after 3 ACL surgeries? Seemed like he might have had a shot to get draft before this...
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby CK86 » Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:27 pm

Hope he's able to come back for another season if that's what he wants to do. It would certainly suck to see his career end this way after all he's done for Duke. Just devastating injury news.

Time for the next guy to step up. Someone is going to get an opportunity, hopefully they make the most of it.
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby dkst0426 » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:45 pm

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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby dukeberto » Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:03 am

Pantone287 wrote:
dukeberto wrote:I can only hope that he takes a page out of Anunike's book and petition for the sixth year, but you also have to wonder if he may be done mentally and physically. I don't think he will play in the NFL so he may be ready to hang em up.


Do you think that more due to ability, or desire to be a pro football player after 3 ACL surgeries? Seemed like he might have had a shot to get draft before this...


I didn't think he had the ability to play at the pro level before his newest injury and three ACL surgeries will likely scare off any team from drafting him. Kelby is a smart player and has a good work ethic, but I just don't think he's quick enough to play pro ball. Maybe he could have gotten on a team as a special teamer, ala Vinny or Pat Bailey, but he wasn't going to crack a rotation at LB. Speed is highly valued (maybe even overvalued?) at the professional level, and unfortunately Kelby didn't have much of it.
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby Rollins » Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:09 pm

First four games are going to be a 4 way tryout between Deion, France, McDonald, and Chris Holmes.
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby Pantone287 » Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:12 pm

Interesting.

My eggs are pretty much all in the Chris Holmes basket now. If we can somehow get him on the field (even though he plays the other LB spot), he seemed like he has the most upside. Maybe the only guy that could potentially be an upgrade over Kelby in terms of pure physical talent.
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby dukeberto » Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:35 pm

From a purely developmental view, I would prefer that Holmes or McDonald really step up here.

France hasn't really shown much at all in his four years. Same with Williams.

Carmichael may be the best out of the bunch, but he is a true freshmen. Would rather he get a redshirt year.
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby Pantone287 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:00 pm

This Monday's edition of our weekly thing where we have a torn ACLin an All-ACC 5th-year senior who also missed 2012 stars Braxton Deaver. Awesome.
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby DrKlahn » Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:40 pm

Good season so far.
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby aiw » Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:03 pm

Knew the last 2 years were too good to be true.
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby SeanMayTriedToEatMe » Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:18 pm



Bracey probably commits elsewhere after this 5-7 season.
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby dukeberto » Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:20 pm

We should still be bowl eligible. I think where we are going to miss Deaver the most is in blocking. Big Country (David Reeves) has potential in the passing game, but will struggle in run support.
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby CK86 » Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:19 pm

You can vote for Jamison Crowder "the herbies"

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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby Pantone287 » Wed Aug 20, 2014 5:10 pm

dukeberto wrote:We should still be bowl eligible. I think where we are going to miss Deaver the most is in blocking. Big Country (David Reeves) has potential in the passing game, but will struggle in run support.


I just haven't paid attention to him blocking enough in the last year or so (mainly because he was never in), but is this a known area where he's struggled? I just see that he's listed as 15 pounds heavier than Deaver.
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby SeanMayTriedToEatMe » Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:14 pm

Brad Kaaya, #8 QB in the true freshman class, will be the starter for Miami. Duke gets him early.
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby dkst0426 » Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:20 pm

USA Today/Coaches Poll: 47 votes for Duke

So 32nd, pretty close being Washington (51), and with some distance from BYU (26)
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby dkst0426 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:44 pm

AP #27
USAT/Coaches #26
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby rhfarmer » Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:22 pm

I'd rather stay out of the polls. Keep them fighting for respect and to prove last year wasn't a fluke.
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby aiw » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:13 pm

Shaun Wilson 28 carries 414 yards 4 TD

14.8 ypc
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Re: Duke Football 2014-15 Discussion

Postby aiw » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:17 pm

Shaun Wilson is going to eat UNC alive if Cut actually gives him some carries.

UNC just gave up a 44 yard rushing TD on 3rd and 28.
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