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Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby Topher » Thu Aug 25, 2016 4:55 pm

Daniel. Jones.
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby Topher » Thu Aug 25, 2016 4:56 pm

Also, here's the first episode of our podcast that covers a lot of the position battles, injuries, and newcomers:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/blu ... 67552?mt=2

https://soundcloud.com/user-462630600
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby aiw » Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:58 pm

Seems Sirk may be done
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby SeanMayTriedToEatMe » Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:16 pm

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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby SeanMayTriedToEatMe » Thu Sep 01, 2016 11:22 am



1. I've always liked the classic Duke Colts uniforms.

2. I feel that a Duke Football Equipment Twitter account is unnecessary.
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby CK86 » Fri Sep 02, 2016 9:34 pm

I'll have to work during the game so look forward to reading the post-game reaction on here. Get the win Devils!
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby dukeberto » Sat Sep 03, 2016 11:53 am

What I'm hoping for today:

1) good game management from Jones - don't turn the ball over, get rid of it if there's too much pressure, make the easy throws.

2) improvement from our defensive line - QB hurries/sacks without having to blitz and run contain

3) feed Jela and Shaun

4) steady special teams play. Devon will be great but I want to see how the new K and P play
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby DrKlahn » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:35 pm

Is the team good?
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby physicsfactor » Sat Sep 03, 2016 11:28 pm

Don't know. Won't know for a few more weeks.
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby dkst0426 » Mon Sep 05, 2016 12:05 am

Really hard to gauge the team based on one half. 2nd half was completely blah - I guess having the luxury of a 49-point lead does that to teams.

Not comparing him to Montana or Manning, but Jones has certainly spent many, many hours working on play fakes and running play action. He executes those quite well.
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby SeanMayTriedToEatMe » Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:05 pm

Duke is favored by 5 points at home against Wake Forest.

I knew Wake was trash. I didn't know Duke was trash as well.
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby StopThePumpFakesShav » Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:41 pm

I would've guessed a little more than a td. Yikes.
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby dukeberto » Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:49 pm

I believe it opened at -8 or -7.5. Apparently a lot of money coming in on Wake's side, which doesn't really make sense given both teams' performances on opening weekend.
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby SeanMayTriedToEatMe » Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:23 am

Wake line back up to 7 on game day. Feels better.
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby StopThePumpFakesShav » Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:25 pm

We are a 3-9 team.
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby SeanMayTriedToEatMe » Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:51 pm

I think I pegged them at 5-7 somewhere in this site, but yeah, this loss automatically kicks that down to 4-8, and as a sign of the true quality of the team, it means 3-9 or even 2-10.

I don't think anyone really cares, except as it relates to recruiting. As long as we can keep the key commits and finish with a top 50 class coming in next season, we can weather this utter **** season.

Regarding the kicker disaster, at the very worst, Duke should be able to find a grad transfer kicker every season. If I'm a non-NFL-potential kicker (99% of college kickers) who redshirted at some point, a free Masters from Duke would be nice.
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby physicsfactor » Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:26 pm

I'm not too bummed. This means one less sports team I will try to keep with for a full season. Probably won't watch another game live now unless Duke magically wins at Notre Dame to get me interested again.
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby DrKlahn » Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:32 pm

Yeah, good to get those saturdays back.
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby physicsfactor » Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:18 pm

Oops, put my celebratory Arkansas post in the wrong thread. Anyway, we can lock this one up now, right?
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby Inveigle » Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:18 pm

There is hope at Northwestern. They also lost Saturday to Illinois State 7-9 and are off to a 0-2 start this season. :roll:
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby Inveigle » Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:25 pm

And, Duke opens as a +1 dog on the road.
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby rhfarmer » Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:18 pm

Looking forward to Duke's road trip to Louisville, holy ****
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby SeanMayTriedToEatMe » Sat Sep 17, 2016 11:11 pm

Can they find 1 more win? I don't think 1-11 will get it done with keeping recruits and good freshmen around.
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby DrKlahn » Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:08 am

call me out for it but I still think we beat Army
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby aiw » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:18 pm

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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby DrKlahn » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:37 pm




I guess it all makes sense...you can't expect that we will always be able to replace talent like Cockrell and Cash and Laken and Ross Martin
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby StopThePumpFakesShav » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:49 pm

5-7 with a win over ND in south bend should be enough to keep the recruits in.
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby StopThePumpFakesShav » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:54 pm

Pitt, UNC, Miami, L'Ville seem like losses. All of those teams are probably better than this ND team.

So, need it to be Army, UVA and GTech and steal one of the above to get to a bowl. Probably not happening, but getting a win in South Bend is such a big deal in the big picture that it doesnt much matter whether they go 5-7 or to some **** bowl on FS1. Just keep the recruits.
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby physicsfactor » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:05 pm

Duke would probably get in a bowl at 5-7, right? 5-7 team priority is based on APR, so at 5-7 Duke would get in if the number of eligible teams is short just 1. (I don't know the actual APR stats, but I assume maybe only one or two teams could beat Duke in that tiebreaker.)
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby DrKlahn » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:51 pm

I don't think we need to make a bowl. Just make sure that no recruits watch our games against Louisville and UNC. Take them all out to see Sully that night. Twice.
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby SeanMayTriedToEatMe » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:59 pm

The tie breaker for 5-7 teams is even more favorable to Duke than that. Only the top 5 APR teams are considered first. Last year, those 5 were Wisconsin, Northwestern, Duke, Michigan, Stanford (all hit 6+ wins anyway). Assuming it's a similar group this season, Wisconsin, Michigan and Stanford will be irrelevant again. Duke and Northwestern would be the only 5-7 teams considered at first.

The sad part is, in the extremely unlikely event that there's only one spot for a 5-7 team, Duke's loss to Northwestern head to head would probably end up costing Duke the bowl bid. It's also possible that Virginia has entered the top 5 in APR, in which case the game against Virginia could essentially be for a bowl tie breaker. It's much more likely, though, that Duke would make it to a bowl at 5-7.

Army and Virginia are must wins. Then pull out 1 of the other 5, which should have a good chance of happening. Cut's new recruiting pitch: "Duke's academic excellence will allow you to go to the Idaho Bowl even if we only have 5 wins."
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby rhfarmer » Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:02 am

Just when I had reverted back to 200-ish Duke football fandom. I am certain that my heart will be broken several times this season.
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby aiw » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:31 pm

ND fires defensive coordinator
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby aiw » Sun Sep 25, 2016 5:07 pm

ACL/MCL for Edwards
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby Inveigle » Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:25 pm

Rating the biggest wins in Duke Football history:

6) 1989 Victory Bell 41-0 over North Carolina *
5) 2016 Regular Season 38-35 over Notre Dame
4) 2015 Pinstripe Bowl 44-41 over Indiana
3) 1955 Orange Bowl 34-7 over Nebraska
2) 1945 Sugar Bowl 29-26 over Alabama
1) 1961 Cotton Bowl 7-6 over Arkansas

*Really any win over North Carolina, but this one stands out.
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby SeanMayTriedToEatMe » Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:01 pm

Duke is favored at home over Virginia by 3.5 points.

Two football programs equal in quality with similar paths to getting here. Duke being **** until an incredible upset last week. Virginia being **** until an incredible blowout as the underdog last week. Epic.
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby SeanMayTriedToEatMe » Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:17 pm

Sagarin projected spreads for the remaining games:

-9.5 v Virginia
-3.5 v Army
+24 @Louisville
+7.5 @Georgia Tech
+9.5 v Virginia Tech
+5.5 v North Carolina
+8 @Pittsburgh
+15 @Miami

Given that Sagarin is overrating Duke relative to Virginia by 6 points, it's safe to assume the rest of the spreads are being significantly favorable to Duke as well. Then again, Duke has a QB who should improve more than all other non-freshman QBs on the schedule.

If we consider @Louisville and @Miami to be completely unwinnable, then Duke's most reasonable path to a bowl is winning the next two vs Virginia and Army and winning 1 out of 4 among @GT, VT, UNC, @Pitt.
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby Topher » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:09 pm

Most likely wins are, in order, @GT, VT, @Pitt, UNC
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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby SeanMayTriedToEatMe » Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:29 pm

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Re: Duke Football 2016-17 Discussion

Postby SeanMayTriedToEatMe » Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:51 pm

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