Rosterbation Thread

[sjsj2448]

Zion is like 6'6

Tell me which guys over 6'6 at center would you take over Zion?

College basketball doesn't have elite centers. Death lineup will be glorious.

 

[Slap the Floor]

The death line-up only works if Trent Jr comes back, imo, otherwise we won't have enough shooting for it to work.

I'm all for a line-up of Tre-Trent-Cam-RJ-Zion but it needs Trent to make it really work, IMO. Sure, you can slide AOC in there, but he can't defend for anything and isn't the scorer ultimately that Trent is. AOC would be a great sub for that line-up.

 

[SeanMayTriedToEatMe]

I think it's clear that he was saying he would take a sophomore Carter over Zion next season.

 

[sjsj2448]

I think it's clear that he was saying he would take a sophomore Carter over Zion next season.

I'm talking about opposing players in a matchup. Should have made that more clear.

 

[sjsj2448]

The death line-up only works if Trent Jr comes back, imo, otherwise we won't have enough shooting for it to work.

I'm all for a line-up of Tre-Trent-Cam-RJ-Zion but it needs Trent to make it really work, IMO. Sure, you can slide AOC in there, but he can't defend for anything and isn't the scorer ultimately that Trent is. AOC would be a great sub for that line-up.

I agree.

 

[bdotling]

The zone worked primarily because of Wendell. Zion blocks shots in highlight reels coming over from the weakside. Wendell could be left on an island in the paint vs. 2 offensive players and effectively stymie them.

 

[rome8180]

I'll cut off my left testicle if Zion is a more valuable all-around player than Wendell. I'm not talking some specious bullshit like "Carter only scored 5 pts in these three cherrypicked games." I'm talking overall offensive and defensive rating, bpm, win shares, effective FG percentage, true shooting, block rate, rebounding percentage, etc.

 

[rome8180]

I picked the left because it hangs a bit lower and gets in the way more.

 

[sjsj2448]

I'll cut off my left testicle if Zion is a more valuable all-around player than Wendell. I'm not talking some specious bullshit like "Carter only scored 5 pts in these three cherrypicked games." I'm talking overall offensive and defensive rating, bpm, win shares, effective FG percentage, true shooting, block rate, rebounding percentage, etc.

We will see. Hopefully Zion can find a spot from 3 like Wendell did and hit 40ish%.

The guys who are highest on Zion (Gribanov and Slater) are the guys I trust the most about recruits. Gribanov even implied Zion would go ahead of Carter THIS year.

 

[Slap the Floor]

I really am not too high on Zion's NBA potential.

 

[StopThePumpFakesShav]

The zone worked primarily because of Wendell. Zion blocks shots in highlight reels coming over from the weakside. Wendell could be left on an island in the paint vs. 2 offensive players and effectively stymie them.

Zion’s blocked shots in those highlights are also against what looks like third graders from an affluent suburb.

 

[SeanMayTriedToEatMe]

I'll cut off my left testicle if Zion is a more valuable all-around player than Wendell. I'm not talking some specious bullshit like "Carter only scored 5 pts in these three cherrypicked games." I'm talking overall offensive and defensive rating, bpm, win shares, effective FG percentage, true shooting, block rate, rebounding percentage, etc.

We will see. Hopefully Zion can find a spot from 3 like Wendell did and hit 40ish%.

The guys who are highest on Zion (Gribanov and Slater) are the guys I trust the most about recruits. Gribanov even implied Zion would go ahead of Carter THIS year.

You still don't get that draft projections might not line up with how good players are in their one year in college? There are 16 year olds who would go ahead of Carter in a draft right now. Who cares, when it comes to performance next season? We root for Duke to play well, not for draft positions.

 

[sjsj2448]

I'll cut off my left testicle if Zion is a more valuable all-around player than Wendell. I'm not talking some specious bullshit like "Carter only scored 5 pts in these three cherrypicked games." I'm talking overall offensive and defensive rating, bpm, win shares, effective FG percentage, true shooting, block rate, rebounding percentage, etc.

We will see. Hopefully Zion can find a spot from 3 like Wendell did and hit 40ish%.

The guys who are highest on Zion (Gribanov and Slater) are the guys I trust the most about recruits. Gribanov even implied Zion would go ahead of Carter THIS year.

You still don't get that draft projections might not line up with how good players are in their one year in college? There are 16 year olds who would go ahead of Carter in a draft right now. Who cares, when it comes to performance next season? We root for Duke to play well, not for draft positions.

Well aware. I was just stating cause for my belief that he will perform better than Carter next year. I'm a believer. You're not. That's fine. You and Rome have never been Zionists, and that's okay. The proof will be in the pudding.

 

[bdotling]

Axe you should care more about defense

 

[sjsj2448]

Axe you should care more about defense

Why do you think I don't? I think Bolden is going to be a star defender and Zion will be good. Barrett and Tre will be good.

Cam is the defender I'm worried about.

 

[bdotling]

Because the bulk of your posts are about the offensive end.

 

[rome8180]

And because you think Zion will be a good defender. It's like you've never watched him play basketball.

 

[rome8180]

The zone worked primarily because of Wendell. Zion blocks shots in highlight reels coming over from the weakside. Wendell could be left on an island in the paint vs. 2 offensive players and effectively stymie them.

Zion’s blocked shots in those highlights are also against what looks like third graders from an affluent suburb.

And he blocks them into the 3rd row, thereby granting the other team another possession. Also, half his blocks are goaltends.

 

[rome8180]

I'll cut off my left testicle if Zion is a more valuable all-around player than Wendell. I'm not talking some specious bullshit like "Carter only scored 5 pts in these three cherrypicked games." I'm talking overall offensive and defensive rating, bpm, win shares, effective FG percentage, true shooting, block rate, rebounding percentage, etc.

We will see. Hopefully Zion can find a spot from 3 like Wendell did and hit 40ish%.

The guys who are highest on Zion (Gribanov and Slater) are the guys I trust the most about recruits. Gribanov even implied Zion would go ahead of Carter THIS year.

You still don't get that draft projections might not line up with how good players are in their one year in college? There are 16 year olds who would go ahead of Carter in a draft right now. Who cares, when it comes to performance next season? We root for Duke to play well, not for draft positions.

Well aware. I was just stating cause for my belief that he will perform better than Carter next year. I'm a believer. You're not. That's fine. You and Rome have never been Zionists, and that's okay. The proof will be in the pudding.

I don't think you really understand how historically good Carter was for Duke this year. I could be high on Zion and still doubt he will be as valuable overall. I don't think Tre Jones will be as valuable overall, and I expect Tre to be next year's MVP.

 

[Devilsforlife]

We will see. Hopefully Zion can find a spot from 3 like Wendell did and hit 40ish%.

The guys who are highest on Zion (Gribanov and Slater) are the guys I trust the most about recruits. Gribanov even implied Zion would go ahead of Carter THIS year.

You still don't get that draft projections might not line up with how good players are in their one year in college? There are 16 year olds who would go ahead of Carter in a draft right now. Who cares, when it comes to performance next season? We root for Duke to play well, not for draft positions.

Well aware. I was just stating cause for my belief that he will perform better than Carter next year. I'm a believer. You're not. That's fine. You and Rome have never been Zionists, and that's okay. The proof will be in the pudding.

I don't think you really understand how historically good Carter was for Duke this year. I could be high on Zion and still doubt he will be as valuable overall. I don't think Tre Jones will be as valuable overall, and I expect Tre to be next year's MVP.

Carter was our best interior defender since Shelden Williams. He was an absolute rock down low defensively.