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Yeah, he did great with Dungy's team.

He did what Dungy couldn't, and he did it with an average QB. Dungy had to have a Hall of Fame QB to win his title.

You could also say the Bill Callahan Raiders team that lost the Super Bowl was Gruden's, too, using your logic.

Gruden responsible for both teams in the Super Bowl. WOW.
Yeah, his teams remained great once Dungy's influence died off.

You're such a dumbass.
 
But to be fair to Gruden he would have been in the Super Bowl the previous season if it weren't for the horrible Tuck Rule fiasco.
 
Yeah, he did great with Dungy's team.

He did what Dungy couldn't, and he did it with an average QB. Dungy had to have a Hall of Fame QB to win his title.

You could also say the Bill Callahan Raiders team that lost the Super Bowl was Gruden's, too, using your logic.

Gruden responsible for both teams in the Super Bowl. WOW.
Yeah, his teams remained great once Dungy's influence died off.

You're such a dumbass.

Dungy didn't win it all in Tampa. Gruden did with essentially the same roster. Those are facts.

"We needed somebody to come kick us in the ass" -Ronde Barber.

"Dungy's influence" Hilarious.

Any way you can quantify that? reminds me of when coaches use terms like "magic pixie dust" and "Perfect storm"

And do we really need to resort to name calling? Your argument is a lemon.
 
Panthers season on the verge of going off the rails. First the special teams debacles on sunday, then Atlanta looks poised to steal our WC, and of course we probably then face Rodgers and get buttfucked by him before finishing 9-7 with no playoff berth to show for it. Fuck you Ron.
 


De Facto playoff game today. @NotTwelve12 will be itching to gloat about this team making a superbowl run if we manage to beat a team at home that starts Case Keenum at QB.

Lines are trending towards Vikes by a field goal. That's some respect for Coach Rivera that vegas has right there
 
Won the battle today but lost the war. Back to back collapses by Bucs and Browns ensure Rodgers comes back next week to buttfuck this awful secondary.
 

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